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God my spelling and grammar is terrible recently. >.<
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Identity politics in book reviews. To the point where a review was withdrawn and then rewritten because people didn't like the book getting a positive review because it had a white main character and a Muslim side character.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/201 ... icism.html
http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/201 ... eview.html
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I have been doing Hegel a bit.
And I feel that feminists have already won.
(They infest parliaments and are the unspoken law in America)
It’s just the way the world swings right now.
It’s time to settle in and continue with your life.
And they are right about some things you know.
Like the fascists, religious and communists are right about some things (even if they are very few things)
It’s better to take advantage of the times we are in rather than raging against it as if we have power over our world.
You are no more likely to stop the bad feminism form happening then you are getting North Korea to stop being mad.
Yes I know it gives me a disadvantage but I always had disadvantages because where and whom I was born too.
I don’t see how fighting this will affect anything in my life in any good way.
Give it another 50 years and we will have the same shit in reverse.
As long, as gays don’t run the world again I am happy to give it to an “out of touch” Green Hipster Gender Abomination.
And I feel that feminists have already won.
(They infest parliaments and are the unspoken law in America)
It’s just the way the world swings right now.
It’s time to settle in and continue with your life.
And they are right about some things you know.
Like the fascists, religious and communists are right about some things (even if they are very few things)
It’s better to take advantage of the times we are in rather than raging against it as if we have power over our world.
You are no more likely to stop the bad feminism form happening then you are getting North Korea to stop being mad.
Yes I know it gives me a disadvantage but I always had disadvantages because where and whom I was born too.
I don’t see how fighting this will affect anything in my life in any good way.
Give it another 50 years and we will have the same shit in reverse.
As long, as gays don’t run the world again I am happy to give it to an “out of touch” Green Hipster Gender Abomination.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... acist.htmlLittle girls should not dress up as Moana this Halloween because it is 'RACIST cultural appropriation' or Elsa from Frozen because it promotes 'white beauty', activists warn
Dressing white children in a Disney Moana costumes for Halloween 'is racist'
A parents blogger has written of the risks of 'cultural appropriation' for costumes
Brooklyn mum Sachi Feris claims white westerners risk being racially insensitive
Polynesian Moana 'is based on real history and a real group of people,' she said
Parents should also think twice about Frozen's Elsa who promotes 'white beauty'
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The Daily Mail? Really?
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ugh... just cause the daily mail run some heavy biased articles doesn't mean the cosmopolitan and raceconscious.org didn't do it. That's the beauty of google.
You can discredit CNN, MSNBC, RT, FOX, you name it for having ridiculous political biases. The best way to read news is to get it from multiple sources or in this case the actual article:
http://www.raceconscious.org/2017/09/mo ... halloween/
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Hoo boi. A reply to my post made one month later... I'm somewhat suspicious.
@Ryall. Cause I have no intention of quoting everything separately, and eh.
I'm just going to start off by being very honest. I... can't seem to grasp if you are being serious or not. I mean, knowing you, you do probably mean what you've said, but perhaps I can't help but want to give you the benefit of the doubt. You clearly aren't this ignorant, right? If this was an elaborate joke then congrats. You win everything. It genuinely made me laugh.
But if not, eh. Here would be my response, and more elaboration as to why I think the above. I'll separate this wall of text into three parts (cause yeah. tl; dr). One for the Murder/Rape debate. The other for the Furry/Fetish thing. And the last for the Fantasy/Reality. Again, cause I'm too lazy to go back and quote everything. Apologies.
Murder/Rape.
Ryall the type of nigga to apply for a position in the Special Forces using his ranking in COD and his kill streaks in various online games as reference.
Jokes aside. *inhales* Boi. I have never laughed so hard as I did after reading you comparing the games you play to a 'murder simulator'. Do you understand what exactly a simulator is? Here. Lemme get almighty Google's definition for you quick. "A machine designed to provide a realistic imitation of the controls and operation of a vehicle, aircraft, or other complex system, used for training purposes."
I mean, if you do then: Oh my god! Those soccer moms from 10 years ago were right all along. Video games like COD and Overwatch ARE teaching our children how to murder. Ban them I say! BAN THEM! ...is what I might have said if it were anywhere near true. Or if it was something you, the one who mentioned it, actually believed. But you don't do you? And if YOU don't believe what you're saying then how in tarnation do you expect anyone else to? You can't have your cake and eat it, I'm afraid. It's either one way or the other.
My next nitpick before I get onto the actual debate is the whole 'liking killing' thing. Again, I have to disagree. I'll even go as far as say that you don't like that aspect of the games at all, and here's my reasoning. Take all those games you play and have the opposition just stand still and not fight back. Or even have them just run away as you slowly or quickly kill them over and over, using whatever means you prefer. Would you enjoy the games as much as you do now? I mean, you're still killing aren't you? But sure. It's the 'killing' you enjoy and not the competitiveness/thrill of winning/being the best.
Now onto the main point. Rape vs Murder and how we react to them, which again I have to disagree with you. Because if you even thought further than your own nose you would have found inconsistencies but okay. Lemme help you.
Okay. Firstly: In reality. Um. After doing a quick search for prison sentences, murderers will more likely serve much longer than rapists. So murder wins there. How the public would react to it, well. How would you? If you compare, on one hand a girl that got raped and on the other where she got murdered. You would feel bad, sure. Most people would. But you'd continue with your life and forget about it shortly after, like what most people do. So, again. There is no difference.
Next: In fiction. Um. Again, I fail to see much difference. How many Law and Order/CSI/NCIS whateverothercrimeshows involved victims that were raped/molested etc? Even Game of Thrones has it. EVEN (spoilers alert) the recent game Outlast 2 has a premise that revolves around a girl getting sexually assaulted. So it is rather prevalent in fiction as we can see. And the populaces reaction? Well, it works with the story so they go with it. I don't remember a huge rally against GOT because it had rape in it. (I mean if there is such a sensitivity towards it surely that would have happened right?)
So. Where is the problem here again? Ah. By going through your example the 'issue' you're presenting is 'why aren't there more shows/video games/etc that have the main protagonist/player committing rape? Cause why can the commit murder and still get away with it and not rape.' And there is the solution to that supposed difficult question you thought had no conclusive answer, by using simple logic.
One word. Justification. Can you have a character rape someone and still be seen as 'good' and 'heroic'? On the other hand, can you have them murder and still be seen as such? And that is why people take these 'murders' committed by main characters less seriously than they would 'rape'. I think the best example of this would be the tv show Dexter. It literally followed a serial killer. But what made us like him? He didn't just kill helpless housewives/husbands or students or whatever. He killed other murderers/criminals. And by doing so, we support his character. Even the supposed 'best murder simulator' Rakuen mentioned. Hitman. I literally never played it and just googled a list of his 'hits', but even by doing so I can tell that the majority, if not all, are criminals, members of gangs etc.
Honestly, if you couldn't even go through that level of deduction, you could just have asked yourself these two questions and gotten a relatively similar answer:
Would you play a rape simulation? Yes/No. --> Why? = Profit.
After coming to this conclusion, all I can say is that people aren't desensitized to 'murder' or oversensitive to 'rape'. All in all, we as a population are just numb to everything. And we've got to be. The world isn't a nice place, and if we got emotional over every little thing we see on the news or read in articles on the web or in newspapers, we'd never be able to survive.
Furry/Fetish.
I have to applaud you. I have never seen someone not answer questions so skillfully that it actually came across as answering them. Well done. Please. Teach me your ways. *slowclap* Just to emphasize what I mean, I'm going to ask you to go over the questions I asked. And then the 'answers' you provided. Done? No? Too lazy? Here. Let me help you.
"Why do you think the fandom is so overtly sexual in both the art medium and in general? And why are there people in the fandom who find anthros more attractive than actual human beings? EVEN on this forum. Why is there need for a sexual preference? And why is it seen to be 'normal'?"
These were the questions that I asked. And your answers. Well, let's see how relevant they are.
-You say that 'Yiff' (cringe) is very commonplace, then add that you would remain here even if it were removed. Hmm. My question was 'WHY is it commonplace?' so why are you just stating the obvious and then going off another tangent ignoring the purpose of the question in the first place. So I'll ask again. Why does the sexual side of the fandom's art take up more than half (I'd even go as far as to say 80%) of its art as a whole?
-Again, you just say that 'ugh I wasn't the one who put the caption there it was already here by the time I came hurrdurr.'. You could literally have just replaced what you said with 'Idunno' and it would have come across the same. Sure. You are right, though everyone and their mother would have known that info.
But I also know that you are smart enough to have understood the purpose behind my question, but you know. Instead of answering that, you gave this mediocre response that added zero value to the discussion whatsoever.
-You literally skipped over an entire question just because you probably couldn't answer it without supporting my argument. Congrats.
At first I was going to ask you to answer my questions properly first, before I answered yours. Because I think that is only fair. But the chances of that happening are slim as frak so... perhaps giving you an example of how to actually answer questions will help you grasp the concept. (Cause you know how much I love repeating myself asking the same shiz over and over again.)
-Regarding me still being in the fandom if 'yiff' (cringe) had disappeared. The honest answer? No. And neither would you. Or anybody. This forum probably wouldn't even exist. Why? Because there are two types of furries. Those that came because of the fetish. Because they realized this was what they got off to. This was who they were. And those that came because the 'furry fandom' has mutated into a place where everything is accepted. A safe place for those who have somewhat self esteem issues and such. (I'm not hating on that though. It can be a rather good thing at times.) Which of the two would have started the fandom eh?
-Regarding the 'unfair in calling the fandom a fetish thing'. Erhem. "Mommy! This person doesn't like apples, but I like apples so they are wrong! Tell them they are wrong and that they must like apples! It's not fair, apples are delicious!" Grow the fuck up. People have the right to voice their own views and opinions. Just like everyone has the right to disagree with them. It's simple fact. However people not agreeing with a point of view doesn't mean that those people whose point of view it is aren't allowed to say what they want to say.
-One last nitpick. About the whole preferences thing and you wanting to know them because of the camaraderie in being part of the 'persecuted minority'. Pffft. Gay furry/Minority pick one. Lol. Another spot on joke. Nearly fell of my chair. My personal distaste for that way of thinking aside, I do understand it. It's easier to get along with people who have the same interests as you. Some guys like video games, others like horror movies, some like dicks. It's natural. BUT. WHY ARE YOU LOOKING FOR THIS ON A FURRY FORUM? Is being a FURRY not enough camaraderie for you? I mean sure. Let's, in this already small group of SA furs, form little special cliques that separate us even further. MegaultraK. Let me put it another way. When playing your games, like Overwatch/COD/Counter Strike (do people even play that anymore lol?) etc. Do you care about the person's sexuality in those cases? So why should it matter here? (Also if I remember correctly where exactly did you meet your boyfriend again? So... the whole 'not doing it to bang people' is kinda lol. Maybe not anymore but... ;3 Jkjk)
Almost done. My god. :v
Fantasy/Reality
Um. You do know with what you said you're basically agreeing with me as well, right? I mean, you did read what I wrote right? And didn't just jump to a conclusion based off of the first line right? Here. Let me, again, copy-paste what I wrote. God knows I love repeating myself because people purposefully evade the point I'm making and only focus on their own agenda as they already have their mind made up and won't listen to reason or even try to understand the others point of view. You could almost say it is like I'm talking to a... hmm. How does that saying go again? Ah. Doesn't matter. I'll get it eventually.
"Let me make it clearer for you by using an example. There's a tv show called Bait Car that I really feel a little iffy about. It's premise is as you expect; police go around leaving a car open with the keys inside and then arrest whoever takes the bait. It's to take potential criminals off the street. But honestly, if they weren't given that opportunity would they have actually committed a crime? It's the same here. Would these people actually be able to resist the urge once they are given this opportunity? Again. I'm sure a lot of people would. But that thought. Just the thought that they wouldn't is enough. And that's why it makes people feel iffy."
What was the point of that post? Oh. Obviously it is declaring that all fantasies are bad and that everyone who has one will succumb to it if given the opportunity. How could I have been so mislead. Alas.
You know what. Here. I have another example to convey my point to you. Be warned, this one is a little more on the nose, so bare with me.
Recently I've been into this Youtuber called Rob Dyke. He does a lot of horror/mystery/crime videos and researches investigations/allegations and all that jazz. The one video involved the rape and murder of a young girl. I'll skip most of the details, but in the end, a man living in her community was found to be the perpetrator. She had been walking home when she passed his house and in doing so sealed her fate. The investigation found that he had a lot of child pornography on his computer and he himself admitted that before the incident he had been watching them, even going as far to say that if she hadn't walked passed that exact moment, he probably wouldn't have done anything.
Now. Let me present a scenario.
On the one hand, you have someone who enjoys child pornography.
On the other, you have someone who doesn't.
Who do you think would MORE LIKELY (not definitely) commit the act of assaulting a minor? Again. I'm not saying either person would definitely do anything if given a situation, just who would be 'more likely'.
Now another example.
One the one hand, a person who gets off on killing.
On the other. Someone who doesn't.
Who do you think would MORE LIKELY kill someone?
And again.
One hand, someone who gets off on rape.
The other, someone who doesn't.
Who do you think would MORE LIKELY commit the act?
To me. Even if that person only had an increased 0.5 percent chance of doing it, I'd still say it was too much. Because are you going to take responsibility when the victim of rape comes crying to you after you had said knowledge beforehand? Are you going to apologize to the victims families after they were found dead after you had knowledge beforehand?
The point I'm trying to make is that to most people, those who have the fetish will be seen as more likely to commit the crime, even if they wouldn't. And that's why they are seen in the negative light.
To conclude: Getting back onto the topic of the politician. The one thing I'll say is there was clearly a personal agenda behind the guy who did the digging. But in the end I agree with the decision to get rid of him. Politics is a job like any other, one that involves playing the people and getting them to stay in your favour. It has nothing to do with who is 'right' and 'best for the country'. If he couldn't understand that, then unfortunately he isn't suited for that position. (If you want reference, check our country and who our president is. Nuff said there.) Though the thing that made me dislike the guy was the fact that he straight up lied about not being into the erotica side of the fandom EVEN THOUGH he wrote erotica himself. (Like whatthefuck??) (And again. I absolutely love repeating myself.)
I'll end off with two questions: One to you, and the other to Rakuen (and whoever else wants to answer it of course.)
How do you think discussions/debates are supposed to take place? One side listening to the others point and retorting on that point, or one side being so stubborn in their one ideas that they only target aspects of the others point so that they can further their agenda?
And how do you feel about people watching Child Pornography, eh? Provided that they do not make/distribute it, clearly they are doing no harm right? So by your standards they are perfectly in their right to watch it, right?
tl; dr. I don't blame you. Lol. Congrats on finishing it if you did.
@Ryall. Cause I have no intention of quoting everything separately, and eh.
I'm just going to start off by being very honest. I... can't seem to grasp if you are being serious or not. I mean, knowing you, you do probably mean what you've said, but perhaps I can't help but want to give you the benefit of the doubt. You clearly aren't this ignorant, right? If this was an elaborate joke then congrats. You win everything. It genuinely made me laugh.
But if not, eh. Here would be my response, and more elaboration as to why I think the above. I'll separate this wall of text into three parts (cause yeah. tl; dr). One for the Murder/Rape debate. The other for the Furry/Fetish thing. And the last for the Fantasy/Reality. Again, cause I'm too lazy to go back and quote everything. Apologies.
Murder/Rape.
Ryall the type of nigga to apply for a position in the Special Forces using his ranking in COD and his kill streaks in various online games as reference.
Jokes aside. *inhales* Boi. I have never laughed so hard as I did after reading you comparing the games you play to a 'murder simulator'. Do you understand what exactly a simulator is? Here. Lemme get almighty Google's definition for you quick. "A machine designed to provide a realistic imitation of the controls and operation of a vehicle, aircraft, or other complex system, used for training purposes."
I mean, if you do then: Oh my god! Those soccer moms from 10 years ago were right all along. Video games like COD and Overwatch ARE teaching our children how to murder. Ban them I say! BAN THEM! ...is what I might have said if it were anywhere near true. Or if it was something you, the one who mentioned it, actually believed. But you don't do you? And if YOU don't believe what you're saying then how in tarnation do you expect anyone else to? You can't have your cake and eat it, I'm afraid. It's either one way or the other.
My next nitpick before I get onto the actual debate is the whole 'liking killing' thing. Again, I have to disagree. I'll even go as far as say that you don't like that aspect of the games at all, and here's my reasoning. Take all those games you play and have the opposition just stand still and not fight back. Or even have them just run away as you slowly or quickly kill them over and over, using whatever means you prefer. Would you enjoy the games as much as you do now? I mean, you're still killing aren't you? But sure. It's the 'killing' you enjoy and not the competitiveness/thrill of winning/being the best.
Now onto the main point. Rape vs Murder and how we react to them, which again I have to disagree with you. Because if you even thought further than your own nose you would have found inconsistencies but okay. Lemme help you.
Okay. Firstly: In reality. Um. After doing a quick search for prison sentences, murderers will more likely serve much longer than rapists. So murder wins there. How the public would react to it, well. How would you? If you compare, on one hand a girl that got raped and on the other where she got murdered. You would feel bad, sure. Most people would. But you'd continue with your life and forget about it shortly after, like what most people do. So, again. There is no difference.
Next: In fiction. Um. Again, I fail to see much difference. How many Law and Order/CSI/NCIS whateverothercrimeshows involved victims that were raped/molested etc? Even Game of Thrones has it. EVEN (spoilers alert) the recent game Outlast 2 has a premise that revolves around a girl getting sexually assaulted. So it is rather prevalent in fiction as we can see. And the populaces reaction? Well, it works with the story so they go with it. I don't remember a huge rally against GOT because it had rape in it. (I mean if there is such a sensitivity towards it surely that would have happened right?)
So. Where is the problem here again? Ah. By going through your example the 'issue' you're presenting is 'why aren't there more shows/video games/etc that have the main protagonist/player committing rape? Cause why can the commit murder and still get away with it and not rape.' And there is the solution to that supposed difficult question you thought had no conclusive answer, by using simple logic.
One word. Justification. Can you have a character rape someone and still be seen as 'good' and 'heroic'? On the other hand, can you have them murder and still be seen as such? And that is why people take these 'murders' committed by main characters less seriously than they would 'rape'. I think the best example of this would be the tv show Dexter. It literally followed a serial killer. But what made us like him? He didn't just kill helpless housewives/husbands or students or whatever. He killed other murderers/criminals. And by doing so, we support his character. Even the supposed 'best murder simulator' Rakuen mentioned. Hitman. I literally never played it and just googled a list of his 'hits', but even by doing so I can tell that the majority, if not all, are criminals, members of gangs etc.
Honestly, if you couldn't even go through that level of deduction, you could just have asked yourself these two questions and gotten a relatively similar answer:
Would you play a rape simulation? Yes/No. --> Why? = Profit.
After coming to this conclusion, all I can say is that people aren't desensitized to 'murder' or oversensitive to 'rape'. All in all, we as a population are just numb to everything. And we've got to be. The world isn't a nice place, and if we got emotional over every little thing we see on the news or read in articles on the web or in newspapers, we'd never be able to survive.
Furry/Fetish.
I have to applaud you. I have never seen someone not answer questions so skillfully that it actually came across as answering them. Well done. Please. Teach me your ways. *slowclap* Just to emphasize what I mean, I'm going to ask you to go over the questions I asked. And then the 'answers' you provided. Done? No? Too lazy? Here. Let me help you.
"Why do you think the fandom is so overtly sexual in both the art medium and in general? And why are there people in the fandom who find anthros more attractive than actual human beings? EVEN on this forum. Why is there need for a sexual preference? And why is it seen to be 'normal'?"
These were the questions that I asked. And your answers. Well, let's see how relevant they are.
-You say that 'Yiff' (cringe) is very commonplace, then add that you would remain here even if it were removed. Hmm. My question was 'WHY is it commonplace?' so why are you just stating the obvious and then going off another tangent ignoring the purpose of the question in the first place. So I'll ask again. Why does the sexual side of the fandom's art take up more than half (I'd even go as far as to say 80%) of its art as a whole?
-Again, you just say that 'ugh I wasn't the one who put the caption there it was already here by the time I came hurrdurr.'. You could literally have just replaced what you said with 'Idunno' and it would have come across the same. Sure. You are right, though everyone and their mother would have known that info.
But I also know that you are smart enough to have understood the purpose behind my question, but you know. Instead of answering that, you gave this mediocre response that added zero value to the discussion whatsoever.
-You literally skipped over an entire question just because you probably couldn't answer it without supporting my argument. Congrats.
At first I was going to ask you to answer my questions properly first, before I answered yours. Because I think that is only fair. But the chances of that happening are slim as frak so... perhaps giving you an example of how to actually answer questions will help you grasp the concept. (Cause you know how much I love repeating myself asking the same shiz over and over again.)
-Regarding me still being in the fandom if 'yiff' (cringe) had disappeared. The honest answer? No. And neither would you. Or anybody. This forum probably wouldn't even exist. Why? Because there are two types of furries. Those that came because of the fetish. Because they realized this was what they got off to. This was who they were. And those that came because the 'furry fandom' has mutated into a place where everything is accepted. A safe place for those who have somewhat self esteem issues and such. (I'm not hating on that though. It can be a rather good thing at times.) Which of the two would have started the fandom eh?
-Regarding the 'unfair in calling the fandom a fetish thing'. Erhem. "Mommy! This person doesn't like apples, but I like apples so they are wrong! Tell them they are wrong and that they must like apples! It's not fair, apples are delicious!" Grow the fuck up. People have the right to voice their own views and opinions. Just like everyone has the right to disagree with them. It's simple fact. However people not agreeing with a point of view doesn't mean that those people whose point of view it is aren't allowed to say what they want to say.
-One last nitpick. About the whole preferences thing and you wanting to know them because of the camaraderie in being part of the 'persecuted minority'. Pffft. Gay furry/Minority pick one. Lol. Another spot on joke. Nearly fell of my chair. My personal distaste for that way of thinking aside, I do understand it. It's easier to get along with people who have the same interests as you. Some guys like video games, others like horror movies, some like dicks. It's natural. BUT. WHY ARE YOU LOOKING FOR THIS ON A FURRY FORUM? Is being a FURRY not enough camaraderie for you? I mean sure. Let's, in this already small group of SA furs, form little special cliques that separate us even further. MegaultraK. Let me put it another way. When playing your games, like Overwatch/COD/Counter Strike (do people even play that anymore lol?) etc. Do you care about the person's sexuality in those cases? So why should it matter here? (Also if I remember correctly where exactly did you meet your boyfriend again? So... the whole 'not doing it to bang people' is kinda lol. Maybe not anymore but... ;3 Jkjk)
Almost done. My god. :v
Fantasy/Reality
Um. You do know with what you said you're basically agreeing with me as well, right? I mean, you did read what I wrote right? And didn't just jump to a conclusion based off of the first line right? Here. Let me, again, copy-paste what I wrote. God knows I love repeating myself because people purposefully evade the point I'm making and only focus on their own agenda as they already have their mind made up and won't listen to reason or even try to understand the others point of view. You could almost say it is like I'm talking to a... hmm. How does that saying go again? Ah. Doesn't matter. I'll get it eventually.
"Let me make it clearer for you by using an example. There's a tv show called Bait Car that I really feel a little iffy about. It's premise is as you expect; police go around leaving a car open with the keys inside and then arrest whoever takes the bait. It's to take potential criminals off the street. But honestly, if they weren't given that opportunity would they have actually committed a crime? It's the same here. Would these people actually be able to resist the urge once they are given this opportunity? Again. I'm sure a lot of people would. But that thought. Just the thought that they wouldn't is enough. And that's why it makes people feel iffy."
What was the point of that post? Oh. Obviously it is declaring that all fantasies are bad and that everyone who has one will succumb to it if given the opportunity. How could I have been so mislead. Alas.
You know what. Here. I have another example to convey my point to you. Be warned, this one is a little more on the nose, so bare with me.
Recently I've been into this Youtuber called Rob Dyke. He does a lot of horror/mystery/crime videos and researches investigations/allegations and all that jazz. The one video involved the rape and murder of a young girl. I'll skip most of the details, but in the end, a man living in her community was found to be the perpetrator. She had been walking home when she passed his house and in doing so sealed her fate. The investigation found that he had a lot of child pornography on his computer and he himself admitted that before the incident he had been watching them, even going as far to say that if she hadn't walked passed that exact moment, he probably wouldn't have done anything.
Now. Let me present a scenario.
On the one hand, you have someone who enjoys child pornography.
On the other, you have someone who doesn't.
Who do you think would MORE LIKELY (not definitely) commit the act of assaulting a minor? Again. I'm not saying either person would definitely do anything if given a situation, just who would be 'more likely'.
Now another example.
One the one hand, a person who gets off on killing.
On the other. Someone who doesn't.
Who do you think would MORE LIKELY kill someone?
And again.
One hand, someone who gets off on rape.
The other, someone who doesn't.
Who do you think would MORE LIKELY commit the act?
To me. Even if that person only had an increased 0.5 percent chance of doing it, I'd still say it was too much. Because are you going to take responsibility when the victim of rape comes crying to you after you had said knowledge beforehand? Are you going to apologize to the victims families after they were found dead after you had knowledge beforehand?
The point I'm trying to make is that to most people, those who have the fetish will be seen as more likely to commit the crime, even if they wouldn't. And that's why they are seen in the negative light.
To conclude: Getting back onto the topic of the politician. The one thing I'll say is there was clearly a personal agenda behind the guy who did the digging. But in the end I agree with the decision to get rid of him. Politics is a job like any other, one that involves playing the people and getting them to stay in your favour. It has nothing to do with who is 'right' and 'best for the country'. If he couldn't understand that, then unfortunately he isn't suited for that position. (If you want reference, check our country and who our president is. Nuff said there.) Though the thing that made me dislike the guy was the fact that he straight up lied about not being into the erotica side of the fandom EVEN THOUGH he wrote erotica himself. (Like whatthefuck??) (And again. I absolutely love repeating myself.)
I'll end off with two questions: One to you, and the other to Rakuen (and whoever else wants to answer it of course.)
How do you think discussions/debates are supposed to take place? One side listening to the others point and retorting on that point, or one side being so stubborn in their one ideas that they only target aspects of the others point so that they can further their agenda?
And how do you feel about people watching Child Pornography, eh? Provided that they do not make/distribute it, clearly they are doing no harm right? So by your standards they are perfectly in their right to watch it, right?
tl; dr. I don't blame you. Lol. Congrats on finishing it if you did.
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Do you two want a room to break the tension?
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I feel sad now.
Do I have an agenda, guys?![Sad :(](./images/smilies/icon_e_sad.gif)
Do I have an agenda, guys?
I don't have the money to sponsor yiff art this time.
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Gay peoples fault!A picture of two male lions having sex has upset a top Kenyan official who has put the blame on gay men going to the national parks and ‘behaving badly’. The image causing a stir shows a lion licking his lips as another lion mounts him from behind in the Maasai Mara game reserve, in Kenya.
It hasn’t gone down well with Ezekiel Mutua, the head of the country’s film censorship board, who is pointing the finger at gay tourists for their behaviour. ‘These animals need counselling, because probably they have been influenced by gays who have gone to the national parks and behaved badly,’ Mr Mutua told Nairobi News. The chief executive of the Kenya Film Classification Board (KFCB) said: ‘I mean where on earth have you ever heard something like this happening.’
He then suggests demonic spirits which have been affecting humans have now passed onto the animals. ‘The demonic spirits inflicting in humans seems to have now caught up with animals,’ he said.
Mr Mutua said research must be carried out to understand why the two male lions are mating, and ordered them to be isolated. ‘That is why I will say isolate the crazy gay animals, study their behaviour because it is not normal,’ he continued. ‘The very idea of sex even among animals is for procreation. Two male lions cannot procreate and therefore we will lose the lion species.’
The man who actually took the picture, Paul Goldstein, saw it quite differently. ‘When lions mate it normally lasts a few seconds, these two were at it for over a minute and the obvious affection afterwards was very evident, as opposed to the violent withdrawal when male and female mate,’ he told MailOnline. Mr Mutua has used his position to censor homosexual content in Kenya, where a man can be sentenced to 14 years in prison for just being gay. He has banned television shows for allegedly promoting homosexuality, something he says he is ‘resolute and unapologetic’ about.
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Disney presents...
Lion King 8: How Pride rock got its name
Coming this summer!
Lion King 8: How Pride rock got its name
Coming this summer!
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You don't know!
Gays are behind most shady conspiracies.
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Previously on Missing the Point Entirely.
*puts on foil hat*
The fact that the meaning behind what I wrote was completely ignored over the length of it is... not surprised. Nor does it matter, as that wasn't really the intention of the post to begin with. I suppose it was more of a rant than anything else. I mean, I already knew either it was not going to be read at all or those who actually did read it wouldn't even try to listen/understand what was said. Which is fine. I've experienced enough of that on here to have gotten the gist of it and I'm not insane enough to keep on trying expecting a different result.
If I had to akin it to anything you might understand, I'd say it was like encountering an anti-vaxer or flat-earther making a speech and people actually believing it and you standing on the sidelines like 'bruh'.
And fair enough, I probably should have just kept quiet, but my flawed pride wouldn't have let me.
Though I know no-one is going to waste their time/energy/money on something like this, IF they were I'd prefer that it remains realistic. As in neither I nor Ryall would be willing participants in it and I'd like it to emphasize the fact that we'd both be mentally scarred afterwards. (Cause that is what rape does folks. Surprise.)
I will thank both of you though. You basically proved one of my points. I mean, what's the first thing furries think about to resolve *megaairquotes* issues? Sex and porn.
Fantastic. Thank you for perpetuating the stereotype.
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Nash you got anything stronger? Lol.
*puts on foil hat*
The fact that the meaning behind what I wrote was completely ignored over the length of it is... not surprised. Nor does it matter, as that wasn't really the intention of the post to begin with. I suppose it was more of a rant than anything else. I mean, I already knew either it was not going to be read at all or those who actually did read it wouldn't even try to listen/understand what was said. Which is fine. I've experienced enough of that on here to have gotten the gist of it and I'm not insane enough to keep on trying expecting a different result.
If I had to akin it to anything you might understand, I'd say it was like encountering an anti-vaxer or flat-earther making a speech and people actually believing it and you standing on the sidelines like 'bruh'.
And fair enough, I probably should have just kept quiet, but my flawed pride wouldn't have let me.
As 'funny' as that joke was the first 100 times... don't you think it's about time to get new material?Splicer-Fox wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:59 am I don't have the money to sponsor yiff art this time. :(
Though I know no-one is going to waste their time/energy/money on something like this, IF they were I'd prefer that it remains realistic. As in neither I nor Ryall would be willing participants in it and I'd like it to emphasize the fact that we'd both be mentally scarred afterwards. (Cause that is what rape does folks. Surprise.)
I will thank both of you though. You basically proved one of my points. I mean, what's the first thing furries think about to resolve *megaairquotes* issues? Sex and porn.
Fantastic. Thank you for perpetuating the stereotype.
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Nash you got anything stronger? Lol.
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Ah, plot twist of plot twists!CyntheWightRabbit wrote:I will thank both of you though. You basically proved one of my points.
If you would prefer us to leave you to your incessant monologue where you basically wait a month to reply to someone no longer interested in talking to you, be our guest. But at least get an archaeologist degree before you dig up the past and rant on about what you think it meant and why it is wrong.
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"Mommy! H-He was the one who started it!" Rip
Kek. Fair game. He's your friend so he gets a free pass on digging shit up a month afterwards, but me replying to something I hadn't seen because life was not allowing me to be very active here isn't acceptable. Sure. Shame on me for living and not dedicating my entire being to this place.
I could have sworn you used to look into the situation objectively first before talking out of your arse. Ah. Things change I guess.
Kek. Fair game. He's your friend so he gets a free pass on digging shit up a month afterwards, but me replying to something I hadn't seen because life was not allowing me to be very active here isn't acceptable. Sure. Shame on me for living and not dedicating my entire being to this place.
I could have sworn you used to look into the situation objectively first before talking out of your arse. Ah. Things change I guess.
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Please read this in a geniunely baffled tone with no malice intended... but you are contradicting yourself. You imply that you don't care, but you obviously care enough to write meticulous & verbiose replies on this forum even weeks after the initial interaction. Not to add to the dead discussion necessarily, but seemingly to rile folks up or to "have the last word" in a discussion nobody cares about any more?CyntheWightRabbit wrote: ↑Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:42 pm Shame on me for living and not dedicating my entire being to this place.
I dunno, man. I think you need to change the tone of such delayed replies or to just get on with life as you have been doing (which I completely agree is a good thing). Festives/holidays are coming up. Maybe channel your energy into positive things like your art or something else that you enjoy doing. You seem very angry/tense.
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not sure if this is the right place for this but i don’t really care anymore.
its recently come to my attention that leaders of countries with nuke buttons are trolling each other over social media... and twitter posts have become world news...
i'd like to just say this:
its recently come to my attention that leaders of countries with nuke buttons are trolling each other over social media... and twitter posts have become world news...
i'd like to just say this:
GG
i like you. you should come over to my house and fuck my sister.
Duck face? i thought they were all just making fart noises when posing for pictures...
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I'm late again. Whoops. And INB4 this gets taken the wrong way.
No malice meant, but I don't understand where you think I'm contradicting myself. I was just explaining as to why I wasn't able to reply instantly (as in I hadn't even known there was a message to reply to in the first place, so it wasn't important at the time to be active here.) Yes. The smart thing to do would have been to let it go, but as you said, I cared enough to need to reply. (For my sake, at least.)
Don't worry, this is the last time I'll be trying to get the last word in on this discussion I promise. Just thought I'd clarify that one bit.
Ditto.
But I never said it meant nothing to me. As you said, obviously it did because why else would I write an essay's worth of text (and a reply trying to justify the ridiculousness of writing an essay's worth of text with jokes that in and of itself got taken seriously).Sudan Red wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:02 am ...but you are contradicting yourself. You imply that you don't care, but you obviously care enough to write meticulous & verbiose replies on this forum even weeks after the initial interaction. Not to add to the dead discussion necessarily, but seemingly to rile folks up or to "have the last word" in a discussion nobody cares about any more?
No malice meant, but I don't understand where you think I'm contradicting myself. I was just explaining as to why I wasn't able to reply instantly (as in I hadn't even known there was a message to reply to in the first place, so it wasn't important at the time to be active here.) Yes. The smart thing to do would have been to let it go, but as you said, I cared enough to need to reply. (For my sake, at least.)
Don't worry, this is the last time I'll be trying to get the last word in on this discussion I promise. Just thought I'd clarify that one bit.
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A teacher in Utah was fired because he had some students look through classical artworks and some of them included nudity. So he was then accused of showing the children pornography... Classical art is now pornography?!
https://news.hjnews.com/logan%E2%80%94h ... 595a9.html
https://news.hjnews.com/logan%E2%80%94h ... 595a9.html
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Another day, another facepalm. We all know Youtube's copyright system is terrible but this gives an idea of how terrible. A clip of 10 hours of white noise, i.e. totally random frequencies, is facing five copyright infringement claims!
https://gizmodo.com/man-s-youtube-video ... 1821804093
https://gizmodo.com/man-s-youtube-video ... 1821804093
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It's cause the code looks for certain notes at certain times and names to validate it. White noise covers the entire harmonic spectrum.Rakuen Growlithe wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:36 pm Another day, another facepalm. We all know Youtube's copyright system is terrible but this gives an idea of how terrible. A clip of 10 hours of white noise, i.e. totally random frequencies, is facing five copyright infringement claims!
https://gizmodo.com/man-s-youtube-video ... 1821804093
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That explains it but also shows that the system is bad. A basic test of a pattern matching algorithm should be that feeding it random noise does not give a match. If random noise is giving a match then your algorithm is broken and it needs to be changed to be much more specific. Yes, a lot of random noise will turn up patterns by chance eventually and the more noise you deal with the more specific your pattern matching has to be. For example, this video is 10 hours and has 5 copyright claims against it. Since it's random noise, that's five claims that should not occur. Way back in 2010, Youtube was getting 50 400 hours of video uploaded per day. (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/youtube-mo ... -uploaded/) Based on the rate of false matches happening to this sample of random noise, that could mean ~25000 false copyright claims per day. That is a problem.
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The system is broken, and I was extremely offended because I recorded a video of Geekfest, in 2015 or 2016. There is nothing in there that is "copyright infringing" yet their bullshit system flagged it repeatedly. So my response to them was to eventually just delete my channel and be done with it. I just got tired of their nonsense, so now, if I share something I do it using my phone via Telegram and others.
All I can say is, Congrats to the MPAA, they've won, they've stifled that pesky freedom of expression.
And yes Rakuen, it is a problem. I have seen people complain since 2013, people close to me, who upload stuff, of electrical things being blown up, and yet, that even gets nailed.
All I can say is, Congrats to the MPAA, they've won, they've stifled that pesky freedom of expression.
And yes Rakuen, it is a problem. I have seen people complain since 2013, people close to me, who upload stuff, of electrical things being blown up, and yet, that even gets nailed.
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If you can't bring an animal on a flight due to misinformation clearly there is only one acceptable course of action... flush the animal down the toilet. It's really the airline's fault anyway. No? Because that's what one US student said.
https://slate.com/technology/2018/02/st ... ation.html
https://slate.com/technology/2018/02/st ... ation.html
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Well, if you're the type of person who needs an emotional support hamster... I'm not entirely surprised.
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This..Franky wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:20 pm
https://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa ... s-11131331Cape Town - German expats in Cape Town got a Nazi fright when they noticed this street sign.
The board, which reads “German School” and gives directions to the German International School Cape Town in Tamboerskloof, depicts a teacher making what looks to be a Nazi salute, to students.
One German Facebook user, who saw the lighter side of the unfortunate sign, took a picture of the board in Kloof Nek Road and posted it on Facebook.
The woman, who asked not to be named, quipped: “So apparently these are the governmental signs for private school ... they obviously add the respective names on the sign before putting them up. And the teacher is clearly pointing at the blackboard. But with the German school’s name to it ... it clearly becomes something else. I find it funny too... very funny actually!”
She added: “I find it mind-blowing that the city puts it up and doesn’t see that it’s clearly not the right sign in combo with the ‘German school’ next to it. and further that the German school hasn’t corrected it”
The City of Cape Town insists there is no link between the sign and the infamous salute used by Adolf Hitler in Nazi Germany.
According to Area North Mayco member, Suzette Little, the symbol is the recognised road signage standard as specified by the National Road Traffic Act and Road Traffic Regulations.
“The figurine represents a teacher pointing to a board in front of a class of learners. The symbols used in SADC RTSM were workshopped and agreed to by the various national and stakeholders, prior to inclusion in the manual.”
She says the City has not received any complaints about this particular sign.
Alexander Kirmse, Headmaster of the German International School Cape Town says they previously asked for the sign to be changed.
“But the fact is that this is not our sign, it is the official sign for schools. Previously the City has been approached by the former headmaster with a request to change the sign, but to no avail. The matter has not been taken further by us as we feel we cannot expect them to change an official sign just for us.”
*chugs bottle of vodka*
This is grade A material..
*passes out*
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Source: http://time.com/5140897/california-meto ... llegation/California Democratic Assemblywoman Cristina Garcia, the head of the Legislative Women’s Caucus and a leading figure in the state’s anti-sexual harassment movement, is accused of groping a male staffer from another lawmaker’s office, according to a report published Thursday.
In a nutshell, a leading feminist anti-sexual harassment and #MeToo advocate has been accused of sexual harassment.
It'll be interesting to see how this unfolds. If found guilty... It'd be monumental hypocrisy.