Questions about the nature of sexuality
Re: Questions about the nature of sexuality
I have stated before it's not illegal to discuss illegal activities (muh free speech, etc.), but it's their forum - their rules. So I don't mind it being halted/deleted.
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Re: Questions about the nature of sexuality
Come to IRC when I am on and have time, and I will debate the reasons for the rule with you. This is one rule I will strictly apply here, though.
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Re: Questions about the nature of sexuality
If you're gonna remove that rule... Please keep it instated on the non yiffy forums...
I've had numerous people complain about this thread before it was locked...
I've had numerous people complain about this thread before it was locked...
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Re: Questions about the nature of sexuality
I agree on both points.Leeward wrote:I'm just going to once again reiterate that I think that that rule is retarded and that there should be a workaround. An anonymous area perhaps?
Anyway, I think it's a real pity that some people adamantly believe that they should be ashamed of themselves because they happen to be a certain way that happens to be a minority.
Anonymous area gets my vote. Such are standard protocol on many other sites I frequent. Hell it already gets done for venting and support.
Secondly, being ashamed is wrong. This is still the legacy in this country unfortunately, having to feel ashamed about sexuality... Really? how sad.
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Re: Questions about the nature of sexuality
...That's not what anonymous means...Randall wrote:Anonymous area gets my vote. Such are standard protocol on many other sites I frequent. Hell it already gets done for venting and support.
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Re: Questions about the nature of sexuality
No. No discussions about this, anonymous or otherwise. I do not want it associated with the forum. I cannot control how people view the fandom outside this, but I can control whether outside forces can use what is posted here out of context. And I will not embroil the forum in that or be a party to that.Leeward wrote:I'm just going to once again reiterate that I think that that rule is retarded and that there should be a workaround. An anonymous area perhaps?
Anyway, I think it's a real pity that some people adamantly believe that they should be ashamed of themselves because they happen to be a certain way that happens to be a minority.
To get me to remove this rule would take more than a loss at a debate. I have very strong reasons to keep it in place across the forum.Adagio wrote:If you're gonna remove that rule... Please keep it instated on the non yiffy forums...
I've had numerous people complain about this thread before it was locked...
But this discussion is off-topic.
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Re: Questions about the nature of sexuality
I meant hidden from view... i.e. members only area. Shoot me with your gun while you are at it.Rakuen Growlithe wrote:...That's not what anonymous means...Randall wrote:Anonymous area gets my vote. Such are standard protocol on many other sites I frequent. Hell it already gets done for venting and support.
Just one thing, I don't think it is illegal to debate about the topics that refer to illegal acts. If you cannot talk about it, it simply smacks of good old censorship. Debate/dissection != support.
If that was the case then they wouldn't be allowed to talk about that in the media either or report on it.
I unfortunately cannot remember what the thing was the deleted posts, but at any one time I did not find anything offensive, it was more a debate.
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Re: Questions about the nature of sexuality
We are not saying that the discussion itself is illegal. The topic is illegal and for some topics which are particularly emotionally charged, allowing such debate can put the forum and/or users at risk. Considering the current social situation, we do not think that the benefits of that discussion outweigh the potential risks and we are not prepared to jeopardise everything that we have worked to create. If you want to discuss those reasons in more depth then feel free to contact me or val directly but this rule has, with varying degrees, existed since the formation of the forum and there is no plan to change that in the foreseeable future.
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Re: Questions about the nature of sexuality
On this, I will apply censorship, if you want to see it as such. And I have my reasons for doing so. And I will tell you about it if you ask me in the correct forum (as in place where debates are held). This is not it.Randall wrote:I meant hidden from view... i.e. members only area. Shoot me with your gun while you are at it.Rakuen Growlithe wrote:...That's not what anonymous means...Randall wrote:Anonymous area gets my vote. Such are standard protocol on many other sites I frequent. Hell it already gets done for venting and support.
Just one thing, I don't think it is illegal to debate about the topics that refer to illegal acts. If you cannot talk about it, it simply smacks of good old censorship. Debate/dissection != support.
If that was the case then they wouldn't be allowed to talk about that in the media either or report on it.
I unfortunately cannot remember what the thing was the deleted posts, but at any one time I did not find anything offensive, it was more a debate.
Ask yourself these two question first: I am fundamentally opposed to censorship of any kind. I find book burnings to be one of humanity's greatest crimes. I will allow debate on almost any topic on the forum. Why would I censor this discussion?
What does a judge do when he encounters a law he is fundamentally opposed to, but is clearly and unambiguously written down?
Answer these, and you may have an idea of why I do it.