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My life is not yet complete, the story not yet finished, it comprises a number of moments some better than others.
Here is but one, written from a human perspective as I had not yet been introduced to the furrier side of life, that only happened due to this moment.
The Moment.
There have been many moments in my life some good some bad, thankfully the good always seems to outnumber the bad. One of the best was when I met him, we had been chatting via Scruff for about 2 weeks when we decided we were finally going to meet in person. We arranged to meet at the Keg one mid January evening. As the time for our meeting approached I was nervous, I could not contain the excitement within me as the day and the hour approached. What would he look like in person? Would I like what I found? Would he be disappointed at what he found as I had recently put on a considerable amount of weight, my self esteem was a little low to say the least.
Finally the moment arrived, I found myself parked outside the Keg initially unable to move, scared senseless, the apprehension and excitement welling within me. Should I go in or should I save myself the disappointment and leave, stand him up?
I'm a nice guy, so I've been told, I reached for the door handle, its cold smooth plastic surface touching my fingers, slowly pulling, the audible click as the latch releases, the door swings slightly open I pause only a moment feels like an eternity. I exit the car stretching my not too considerable frame to full length. Turn, grasp the door, push, click, lock. Turn, look ahead, there it is, The Keg, glance down, inhale, adjust the pants, walk, its simple one leg in front of the other repeat, feet feel like lead weights, legs stiff an unrelenting branch unwilling to be bent.
Move slowly forward, approach, nervous, stop, look, move. As I step on the porch all the tables are taken, I stop, look left, look right, talking, laughing, all groups, is he there did he stand me up?
I turn, he's there, in front of me. He looks up smiles dimples showing, eyes sparkling, eyes smiling, I freeze, unable to, move, can't be him can it? He is beautiful, smiling eyes that even the glasses can't hide, curly black hair, dimples when he smiles. Can it be? Can I be this lucky? Such beauty.
Deep breath, step forward, him: hands on table, arms strain, pushes himself up, me: just another step, excitement, smiling, happy, extend my arm, our hands touch, his palms a little clammy, he too is nervous, deep breath, relax, sit. The rest of the evening pass as if two old friends meeting after a long absence, the chat natural, unforced, happy, excited. People leave, we're still there more drinks, more chat, more people leave, we're last they ask us to leave, we smile pay leave. That was the start of the best time of my life, how I will always remember him.
Here is but one, written from a human perspective as I had not yet been introduced to the furrier side of life, that only happened due to this moment.
The Moment.
There have been many moments in my life some good some bad, thankfully the good always seems to outnumber the bad. One of the best was when I met him, we had been chatting via Scruff for about 2 weeks when we decided we were finally going to meet in person. We arranged to meet at the Keg one mid January evening. As the time for our meeting approached I was nervous, I could not contain the excitement within me as the day and the hour approached. What would he look like in person? Would I like what I found? Would he be disappointed at what he found as I had recently put on a considerable amount of weight, my self esteem was a little low to say the least.
Finally the moment arrived, I found myself parked outside the Keg initially unable to move, scared senseless, the apprehension and excitement welling within me. Should I go in or should I save myself the disappointment and leave, stand him up?
I'm a nice guy, so I've been told, I reached for the door handle, its cold smooth plastic surface touching my fingers, slowly pulling, the audible click as the latch releases, the door swings slightly open I pause only a moment feels like an eternity. I exit the car stretching my not too considerable frame to full length. Turn, grasp the door, push, click, lock. Turn, look ahead, there it is, The Keg, glance down, inhale, adjust the pants, walk, its simple one leg in front of the other repeat, feet feel like lead weights, legs stiff an unrelenting branch unwilling to be bent.
Move slowly forward, approach, nervous, stop, look, move. As I step on the porch all the tables are taken, I stop, look left, look right, talking, laughing, all groups, is he there did he stand me up?
I turn, he's there, in front of me. He looks up smiles dimples showing, eyes sparkling, eyes smiling, I freeze, unable to, move, can't be him can it? He is beautiful, smiling eyes that even the glasses can't hide, curly black hair, dimples when he smiles. Can it be? Can I be this lucky? Such beauty.
Deep breath, step forward, him: hands on table, arms strain, pushes himself up, me: just another step, excitement, smiling, happy, extend my arm, our hands touch, his palms a little clammy, he too is nervous, deep breath, relax, sit. The rest of the evening pass as if two old friends meeting after a long absence, the chat natural, unforced, happy, excited. People leave, we're still there more drinks, more chat, more people leave, we're last they ask us to leave, we smile pay leave. That was the start of the best time of my life, how I will always remember him.
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you guys have told me the story before, but never like that! that was stunning hun!!!
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As stated before there have been many moments I will add some more eventually perhaps they can even be put into a whole story of sorts.
Thanks still a novice at creative writing.
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Untitled
A little something I started writing last night, first couple of paragraphs were ok then went downhill, will fix it but wanted to post it.
The loneliness of a hundred faces
All together, so alone
The solitude of a hundred spaces
Everywhere, so alone
Love will never last
Another year spent alone
Love fleeting and fast
Emotions worn down to the bone
Love, what a grand lie
Happiness an illusion
Life spent just to die
Success a delusion
Life such a waste
Life if you would call it so
Life meant for living
Life spent dying
Together, alone
Love, alone
Life, alone
Die, alone
Never together
Never love
Never happiness
Never for me
Why create a solitary soul
No chance to ever love
Success a dream
Life spent dying alone
The loneliness of a hundred faces
All together, so alone
The solitude of a hundred spaces
Everywhere, so alone
Love will never last
Another year spent alone
Love fleeting and fast
Emotions worn down to the bone
Love, what a grand lie
Happiness an illusion
Life spent just to die
Success a delusion
Life such a waste
Life if you would call it so
Life meant for living
Life spent dying
Together, alone
Love, alone
Life, alone
Die, alone
Never together
Never love
Never happiness
Never for me
Why create a solitary soul
No chance to ever love
Success a dream
Life spent dying alone
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thats a really emotional peace..i love it man *hugs*
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So I like to do a bit of random stuff. Creative writing usually very short stories and a bit of (usually bad) poetry. This will be a reasonable random thread with some of my stuff in.
Note to admins could you please move my current posts - The Moment and Untitled into this thread.
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Change
Change never ceases
Change often uneases
Like day to night
Darkness to light
Darkness came like a creature
Became like a feature
The darkness is hopeless
Emotions become lifeless
Life suffered
Help offered
Darkness became dawn
A change slowly born
Change comes not in an instant
Devotion to it must be consistent
Darkness to light
Change has the ability to fright
Eventually the lightness came
No one else to blame
Look forward
Never backward
The past causes strife
The present is your life
Important is your life
Happiness to others no longer strife
Change is like night to day
Like an opera should it play
Welcome it with open arms
Never let it cause alarms
Change change change
Change never ceases
Change often uneases
Like day to night
Darkness to light
Darkness came like a creature
Became like a feature
The darkness is hopeless
Emotions become lifeless
Life suffered
Help offered
Darkness became dawn
A change slowly born
Change comes not in an instant
Devotion to it must be consistent
Darkness to light
Change has the ability to fright
Eventually the lightness came
No one else to blame
Look forward
Never backward
The past causes strife
The present is your life
Important is your life
Happiness to others no longer strife
Change is like night to day
Like an opera should it play
Welcome it with open arms
Never let it cause alarms
Change change change
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it frustrates me that you guys write such damn decent poems! i wanna make songs from them!!!
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Don't know how decent it is, was done quite quickly without too much thought. That s aid it's probably the best way to write bringing out your thoughts quite honestly.Ravensong wrote:it frustrates me that you guys write such damn decent poems! i wanna make songs from them!!!
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i think it's awesome! and yes... often things done with little thought and planning are the most honest things...Asbjorn-phoenix wrote:Don't know how decent it is, was done quite quickly without too much thought. That s aid it's probably the best way to write bringing out your thoughts quite honestly.Ravensong wrote:it frustrates me that you guys write such damn decent poems! i wanna make songs from them!!!
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Agreed! Most of my poems take under 30min...spark of inspiration and I write until I've finished.
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Down below
Once there was a young boy emotions so low
Always present, never noticed
In a corner in the darkness down below
Always trying always focused.
He got older not bolder
Emotions like darkness crept down below
The pain would come as he grew older
Alone he felt his soul down below.
As a man he realised he could
But hiding in the darkness he wondered if he should
For success he tried but it would never show
The demons came once again and dragged him down below
The older he got he sank, sank, sank down below
The darkest oceans above his head he would come to know
Alone was he and so he suffered
There was one who noticed and the pain was buffered
Support grew and became mighty
Lift up said the voices from down below
His walls broke down ever so slightly
He lifted from down below but it came slow
Love came but unrequited
His mind soared from down below
Yet his heart formed walls none would ever know
This is a story of a life forever halted.
Down below, come up
Down below, love again
Down below, never give up
Down below, try not feel pain
Once there was a young boy emotions so low
Always present, never noticed
In a corner in the darkness down below
Always trying always focused.
He got older not bolder
Emotions like darkness crept down below
The pain would come as he grew older
Alone he felt his soul down below.
As a man he realised he could
But hiding in the darkness he wondered if he should
For success he tried but it would never show
The demons came once again and dragged him down below
The older he got he sank, sank, sank down below
The darkest oceans above his head he would come to know
Alone was he and so he suffered
There was one who noticed and the pain was buffered
Support grew and became mighty
Lift up said the voices from down below
His walls broke down ever so slightly
He lifted from down below but it came slow
Love came but unrequited
His mind soared from down below
Yet his heart formed walls none would ever know
This is a story of a life forever halted.
Down below, come up
Down below, love again
Down below, never give up
Down below, try not feel pain
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ooooooo...
i like that one
i like that one
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ThanksRavensong wrote:ooooooo...
i like that one
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Falling:
Start so high feeling you can fly,
Happy, happy days filled with love and joy,
Life good feeling understood,
A moment, a smile happy for a while.
A moment, small moment and the fall begins,
Falling fast emotions charged,
Happy, numb,
Numb is better, no joy, no pain.
The pain now comes slowly, deeper,
Life force depleted, your time metered,
Falling so low, very very slow,
Suddenly the light.
Suddenly a smile, it will take you a mile,
Higher, higher happiness yours to own again,
Life's intricacies, woven like a thread through your head,
Darkness to light, the pain takes flight.
Start so high feeling you can fly,
Happy, happy days filled with love and joy,
Life good feeling understood,
A moment, a smile happy for a while.
A moment, small moment and the fall begins,
Falling fast emotions charged,
Happy, numb,
Numb is better, no joy, no pain.
The pain now comes slowly, deeper,
Life force depleted, your time metered,
Falling so low, very very slow,
Suddenly the light.
Suddenly a smile, it will take you a mile,
Higher, higher happiness yours to own again,
Life's intricacies, woven like a thread through your head,
Darkness to light, the pain takes flight.
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That was cool! I like how we went up and down. Ur good.
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Wouldn't go quite that far, but who knows probably better than I give myself credit for.Ravensong wrote:That was cool! I like how we went up and down. Ur good.
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Promises
Promises made
Promises broken
Promises but a mere token
Promises made in an instant
Promises broken and distant
Reconciliation tried
Promises that lied
A promise of light
Promise always a beacon
Promise only to find it weaken
What good is a promise?
A promise should last though future and past
A promise should feed never fast
A promise should hope
A promise never a hangman's rope.
Why make a promise?
A promise in life
should end strife
If a promise you made you cannot keep
It should be remembered could make us weak
Promises made
Promises broken
A promise of hope
Promise brings no knife
Promise builds life.
Promises made
Promises broken
Promises but a mere token
Promises made in an instant
Promises broken and distant
Reconciliation tried
Promises that lied
A promise of light
Promise always a beacon
Promise only to find it weaken
What good is a promise?
A promise should last though future and past
A promise should feed never fast
A promise should hope
A promise never a hangman's rope.
Why make a promise?
A promise in life
should end strife
If a promise you made you cannot keep
It should be remembered could make us weak
Promises made
Promises broken
A promise of hope
Promise brings no knife
Promise builds life.
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Wow, any reason why this came about?
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Was just thinking about something from my past which I have tried to set right but to no avail.Ivic-Wulfe wrote:Wow, any reason why this came about?
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Utopia
What is utopia I hear you ask
As with life just a mask
A mask to cover the ugliness that is life
A mask for an unreal fantasy
Does utopia exist I hear you ask
Only in the minds of sleepers dreams
Utopia, unreal like a butterfly in a flask
What bliss if it did exist.
What is utopia I hear you ask
As with life just a mask
A mask to cover the ugliness that is life
A mask for an unreal fantasy
Does utopia exist I hear you ask
Only in the minds of sleepers dreams
Utopia, unreal like a butterfly in a flask
What bliss if it did exist.
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I've been threatening to write some more stuff recently but not gotten round to it.
I found this today and thought it was amazing, not my own work but wow, just wow, wish I could write like this.
'a little bit' - Stuart Crowther
after you were mine,
I wondered what happened
after you were mine.
but.no.
not mine.
not a shrewd as belonging, not as finite as possession-
rather I
borrowed you for a while,
but
less like the replacement for some faulty appliance
more like a treasured acquisition - a tome,
housed in a library somewhere I’ll never visit but might think of
on some idle morning as the kettle boils and
letters drop forlornly to the mat
and I catch myself…sometimes…I’m
thinking - on a rainy weekend or a broken Tuesday
which seems fit for little else -
wondering where you are, and who’s borrowed you now
who’s inhaling the scent of your pages and adding a
sentence or two.
in a cursive script,
much neater than mine.
i remember the shape of you, sketch the illustration, but blur the edges
imagine a Technicolor version where there was really
only a limited palate
as limited as my own
at the time.
but we painted each other in primary tones,
stuck to the lines,
caring nothing for the shades and the scribbles that would follow with time
and with age.
i kept you intact for a while,
painstakingly guarding your covers then
passed you on
a good sport
to someone else, who could decipher your wisdom,
a specialist in text I couldn’t read any more
after you are mine,
I wondered.
who you’d lend yourself to
and hoped his hands were clean.
I found this today and thought it was amazing, not my own work but wow, just wow, wish I could write like this.
'a little bit' - Stuart Crowther
after you were mine,
I wondered what happened
after you were mine.
but.no.
not mine.
not a shrewd as belonging, not as finite as possession-
rather I
borrowed you for a while,
but
less like the replacement for some faulty appliance
more like a treasured acquisition - a tome,
housed in a library somewhere I’ll never visit but might think of
on some idle morning as the kettle boils and
letters drop forlornly to the mat
and I catch myself…sometimes…I’m
thinking - on a rainy weekend or a broken Tuesday
which seems fit for little else -
wondering where you are, and who’s borrowed you now
who’s inhaling the scent of your pages and adding a
sentence or two.
in a cursive script,
much neater than mine.
i remember the shape of you, sketch the illustration, but blur the edges
imagine a Technicolor version where there was really
only a limited palate
as limited as my own
at the time.
but we painted each other in primary tones,
stuck to the lines,
caring nothing for the shades and the scribbles that would follow with time
and with age.
i kept you intact for a while,
painstakingly guarding your covers then
passed you on
a good sport
to someone else, who could decipher your wisdom,
a specialist in text I couldn’t read any more
after you are mine,
I wondered.
who you’d lend yourself to
and hoped his hands were clean.
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if you've something to hide you shouldn't be here.
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very interesting this second one .Its definitely a different way of looking at a lost partner .
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Loneliness
Hello loneliness my old friend
After so long why now show your presence?
Without love will you ever end?
My constant companion draining my life essence.
Tell me where are you found.
If found can I wipe your slate?
Just to feel myself once again unbound
From your malice and hate.
You drag me deeper into the pits of dispair
The beauty of the crisp blue sky is no more
As the pit surrounds me I cannot breathe, no air
Without you old friend there may be someone to adore
Dig me out the depths of self pity
I have no one to blame but myself
Loneliness does not exist only a fragmet of the psyche
Loneliness comes from within the ego and the self
Hello loneliness my old friend
After so long why now show your presence?
Without love will you ever end?
My constant companion draining my life essence.
Tell me where are you found.
If found can I wipe your slate?
Just to feel myself once again unbound
From your malice and hate.
You drag me deeper into the pits of dispair
The beauty of the crisp blue sky is no more
As the pit surrounds me I cannot breathe, no air
Without you old friend there may be someone to adore
Dig me out the depths of self pity
I have no one to blame but myself
Loneliness does not exist only a fragmet of the psyche
Loneliness comes from within the ego and the self
If you've done nothing wrong you have nothing to fear,
if you've something to hide you shouldn't be here.
if you've something to hide you shouldn't be here.
- Asbjorn-phoenix
- Papa Bear
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Re: Asbjorn's stuff
Crying Smiles
The universe smiles on me
Smiles all around
Smiles on my face
A smile to hide the tears
A heavy heart growing old alone
Desires the freedom to be known
Smiles when out
Tears when alone.
How hard to hide the heart
Joy should accompany smiles
The smile is a lie
Behind it a lonely withering heart.
Alone the tears roll down
No one knows all they see are the smiles.
Stay strong, smile while you cry
Don't show your fears or weaknesses lest someone smiles.
The universe smiles on me
Smiles all around
Smiles on my face
A smile to hide the tears
A heavy heart growing old alone
Desires the freedom to be known
Smiles when out
Tears when alone.
How hard to hide the heart
Joy should accompany smiles
The smile is a lie
Behind it a lonely withering heart.
Alone the tears roll down
No one knows all they see are the smiles.
Stay strong, smile while you cry
Don't show your fears or weaknesses lest someone smiles.
If you've done nothing wrong you have nothing to fear,
if you've something to hide you shouldn't be here.
if you've something to hide you shouldn't be here.
- Asbjorn-phoenix
- Papa Bear
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Re: Asbjorn's stuff
Friendship is magic
Friendship is magic
No magic exists
Friends are disposable
As much is in modern life
Friendship should be magic
Alas, magic is but fantasy
The fantasy of friendship unreal
Friendship never lasts a life
Friendship could be magic
Only if magic were real
Thrown away
Friends forget the magic of life
Friendship is magic
No magic exists
Friends are disposable
As much is in modern life
Friendship should be magic
Alas, magic is but fantasy
The fantasy of friendship unreal
Friendship never lasts a life
Friendship could be magic
Only if magic were real
Thrown away
Friends forget the magic of life
If you've done nothing wrong you have nothing to fear,
if you've something to hide you shouldn't be here.
if you've something to hide you shouldn't be here.
- Rakuen Growlithe
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Re: Asbjorn's stuff
Sounds like something an emo pony would write.
"If all mankind minus one, were of one opinion, and only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind."
~John Stuart Mill~
“Give me the liberty to know, to utter, and to argue freely according to conscience, above all liberties.”
~John Milton~
~John Stuart Mill~
“Give me the liberty to know, to utter, and to argue freely according to conscience, above all liberties.”
~John Milton~
- Asbjorn-phoenix
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Re: Asbjorn's stuff
Been feeling kinda emo recently, not a pony though.
Definitely not a pony though
Definitely not a pony though
If you've done nothing wrong you have nothing to fear,
if you've something to hide you shouldn't be here.
if you've something to hide you shouldn't be here.
- Trace
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Re: Asbjorn's stuff
Well I think it's a beautiful, heartrending piece...
I'm sorry that you've felt that way. I hope that you can find the magic in friendship again soon.
I'm sorry that you've felt that way. I hope that you can find the magic in friendship again soon.
"I change shapes just to hide in this place, but I'm still, I'm still an animal" -Miike Snow, 'Animal'
"Where there's life, there's hope."-Terence
"Where there's life, there's hope."-Terence