What are your views on the yiffy part of the fandom?

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What are your views on the yiffy part of the fandom?

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So we've discussed furry smut, now let's talk about the people who enjoy it

I'm sure most of you would agree that you're not "in the fandom for the yiff". But I'm sure for, at least some of you, this statement might be followed by a "but"

I'll also say I'm not in the fandom for the yiff. I'm here for the people. After all, you can enjoy the yiff without interacting with anyone... But it wouldn't be the same without it. I enjoy being a sexual deviant, I enjoy being able to interact with people in a more sexually explicit way, and, well, the fandom helps with that a lot

I'm not saying the whole fandom is like this, so let's just call it "the yiffy side of the fandom". Depending on where you go, you can discuss things that most other people wouldn't dare to discuss in polite conversation. I think it can be said that such things are a lot more normal in the fandom than most other places

So... What do you guys think of the yiffy side of the fandom? Is it a good thing? Or do you think the fandom would be better off being PG13? Do you think it's acceptable for lewd things to be so "normal"?

It might be giving the fandom a bad name, but, well, I'm baised, being a part of it. I think it'd be interesting to hear a mix of opinions on the topic
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I am not in the fandom for the yiff... BUT
  • Enjoy drawing it, especially stuff that is out of the ordinary and could be painful (implying that nobody gets hurt)
  • I like looking at it, and regular smut for artistic reasons
  • The human (and by extension, furry) body is a very well put together piece of machinery, what's not to like looking at?
  • Provides an endless list of new things to try, thereby ensuring a very varied and healthy sexual life
I don't think yiff is giving the fandom a bad name anymore- I think JOURNALISTS and their EVIL MEDIA HOUSES are largely the problem because they run out of shit to write about (there's only so much celebrity scandal methinks) and then shift focus to the easy peasy i.e. writing another article of pure excretment about furries to sell magazines.
I think drama, regular forum and social media feuding is giving some of the fandom a bad name. But that's not relevant here.

I have been in other fandoms, and the one thing that did strike me was that people like to interact sexually in the fandom because it makes it less of a problem since the fandoms make this kind of thing more open, or more accepted perhaps. The Sonic and anime fandoms have exactly this too. As far back as 17 years ago, I mean, it was like, oh, we have Sonic yiff, its like available, thousands of pages of it... As for anime, well, they've had it for decades. How many of my manga books at home contain sex... pretty much 70% of them.

I don't think its right to make the fandom PG13, aside from whether you want children to be present at cons or not. Why do that, when we don't talk PG13 at home and we even discuss what and when to have sex over dinner?
By the time you turn 13, you're already (for the most part) pretty clear on how the human body appears and how sex works (or at least you should be).

So,
  • We are all adults
  • We are all of differing sexual orientations
  • We all have sex
then what is the problem?

I can assure you, after doing years worth of research into porn, every single person on this forum has some kind of kink, or deviance, or whatever you wanna call it.
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I must admit, I myself haven't seen the furry fandom being criticized or reviled in many publications I've read... The sharpest furry-related bashing I've witnessed has been from furries themselves! But that's just my small-ish sample. :P

As with most things in the fandom, I have a "live and let live" attitude towards it. What you view in the privacy of your home is your own business. The problem for me creeps in when another person is affected or added to the equation - such as showing a minor smut, or defaming someone's character by drawing unwanted porn of his or her 'sona. That then crosses the line.

An additional point:

Tolerance for me doesn't mean approval. There are many fetishes and kinks that make me do a U-turn and which I find in poor taste. But I tolerate the right of others to produce and view such content (within legal boundaries).
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Sex is a very common topic amongst humans, of all ages. However, during the Victorian era and later, great emphasis was placed on making this an unfit topic for discussion. It was turned into something shameful, as was an uncovered body. Similarly, there's the Puritans, thrown out of Britain because of their extremely conservative religious views.

Against this societal pressure is our evolutionary instincts, which favours procreation, as well as people thinking about sex a lot.

A comic I can't paste here said it best. Furries are not more sexual than other parts of society, they are just more open about it. And tolerant about it. We discuss it in public. We draw art celebrating it.

People outside the fandom sees the openness, and compare it to debauchery or similar. I believe that the issue is that the fandom is ahead of society's curve here. And society in some places are getting more conservative than before.

You'll find a lot of this negative reporting in the US. Where there are more furries than in most places in the world. And where the Mayflower and her load of Puritans ended up.

I will keep sex away from minors. Don't force me to watch porn I don't enjoy. And keep the icky (imo) fetishes in your bedroom. Other than that, go wild. I like watching porn.
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Valerion wrote: Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:38 pm Sex is a very common topic amongst humans, of all ages. However, during the Victorian era and later, great emphasis was placed on making this an unfit topic for discussion. It was turned into something shameful, as was an uncovered body. Similarly, there's the Puritans, thrown out of Britain because of their extremely conservative religious views.

Against this societal pressure is our evolutionary instincts, which favours procreation, as well as people thinking about sex a lot.

A comic I can't paste here said it best. Furries are not more sexual than other parts of society, they are just more open about it. And tolerant about it. We discuss it in public. We draw art celebrating it.

People outside the fandom sees the openness, and compare it to debauchery or similar. I believe that the issue is that the fandom is ahead of society's curve here. And society in some places are getting more conservative than before.

You'll find a lot of this negative reporting in the US. Where there are more furries than in most places in the world. And where the Mayflower and her load of Puritans ended up.

I will keep sex away from minors. Don't force me to watch porn I don't enjoy. And keep the icky (imo) fetishes in your bedroom. Other than that, go wild. I like watching porn.
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It has been said somewhere that the Western societal culture from the Victorian and other eras found the naked body shameful, hence the situation we have experienced in our lives. Thanks for that bit of history there :)

Well even Uncle Kage said it "Furries are not more sexual than any other parts of society...."

I said it elsewhere I think in a Telegram chat, can't remember. I basically said we're made to fuck! Its true. Every day there's the thoughts about it, waking up with feeling like engaging in it etc... them instincts at work XD
As for children, there is a fine line there. Keeping it away from them altogether is just as bad as exposing it all to them. You have to teach, you have to answer those awkward questions. I am a parent and I have been in that position many times already, I have been open and honest about what goes for what- at least that way I can be sure when it comes to teenage sex he will make an informed decision. That does NOT mean I allow him to see my yiff or my yiffy drawings or porn.

Regarding fetishes- some things that others find sick, some find appealing. As an individual you have the power of choice, and no, this is not about forcing them on anyone. As I get older I am finding a lot of what people have in common, and the "icky" fetishes are rather than the exception to the rule. Most furries like the same things I do, and by extension, most people I know, whom are comfortable about discussing sex.
We draw art celebrating it.
That is why I draw it, paint it, photograph it. And don't for one moment think my spouse doesn't know. Hell I get encouragement. Another artists has asked me to consider making him an A3 block canvas of the female sex organs in black and white with the central message being the "gift of life"
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I have just written a whole section for Furry Times, and here is an excerpt:

For the first time, we have a documentary tackles the issue of sexuality, specifically "yiff" head-on, and why it has a place in the fandom.
It builds on what Uncle Kage said in the Pehrson documentary, and expands to give an honest and factual look at what yiff means to most furries.
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FURRY PORN IS COOL!
AM ADULT CAN WATCH THE BOING BOINGS AT OWN PLEASURE!
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YoteFox wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:30 pm FURRY PORN IS COOL!
AM ADULT CAN WATCH THE BOING BOINGS AT OWN PLEASURE!
I concur.
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"Hey dude. Check this cool drawing I made. It's so rad and awesome bro."

"Sure. Show me."

-shows picture of ANIMAL PEOPLE FUCKING eachother-

"Ew gross dude. Wtf."

"-legasp. How-How dare you!?! Well. I guess I shouldn't be surprised. We Furries are ahead of our time and you normal humans are primitive beings with such primitive ways of thinking. The body is natural. Sex is natural. To not accept it as such is blasphemy of the highest order. Begone peasant."

...

I think I got that right? Right Bossman? Looper? ;3
Lord have mercy. I couldn't help but scoff while reading your posts at how... hypocritical? Subjective? Pretentious? you were being. It's like you didn't even try to look at things from the other side's perspective.

Okay. First off. Let's clear things up real quick. The reason why furries are seen in a 'negative' light has nothing to do with the fact that it is basically a fetish that morphed its way into this cancerous tumour disguising itself as a fandom. No. The real reason why people dislike furries is literally in the very concept itself. Furries. Anthropomorphic animals. Animals with human characteristics. And all people, normal people see, when they take a small step inside the 'fandom' is the over the top sexualizing of animals-... and what does that make people think of those in the fandom? That we're all a bunch of 'that which shall not be named'. And when they see all the porn in the fandom itself all it does is give them more fuel to say "hah! Told you so." t

It doesn't help the fact that a lot of furries think that shoving their porn/fetish in others faces should be fine as you know sex is normal and stuff. And those other people are in the wrong for not accepting it. Hahahaha. Right guys?

Oh. But I am probably not allowed to say much on the subject because I'm one of those primitive peasants aren't I? I mean, it's not because I just do not want to be a part of all of your fetishes that I did not join the porn side of the forum, but because I am unworthy of being blessed by the gift of furries and their forward thinking.

Literally Galahad is the one who said it right. Enjoy your porn. Your fetishes in the privacy of your own rooms/homes. If people from the outside see it because you felt like showing them they have every right to show disgust. Them showing it has nothing to do with them not accepting sex and being 'conservative' and just them not wanting to know much about your motherbuffing sex life/preferences.

Also another thing, procreation and furry porn. Yup. Definitely a good thing to compare with one another. Totally. They have so much things in common that they can basically be seen as the same topic. There's no way one might be put off from the one because of specific reasons unrelated to the other. Surely not.
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Thanks for the opinion, Cynthe.

Generally speaking, it is a bad idea to show someone porn unless you know they're interested, regardless of the porn, and especially if the porn is niche in any way (e.g furry porn). I'm sure most of us keep that in mind. If they keep wandering to our porn sites... Well, that can't be helped
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