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Not sure if this is just a problem on my end, but the Short Films thread viewtopic.php?f=51&t=3937 appears to be super broken. At first I figured it must be because of the new BBCode breaking all the old videos, but the music threads all seem to be working just fine, even if you can't see the old videos anymore. The Short Films thread, however, is so busted you can't even use the full editor on there. Some posts are blank and overlapping, and some have these weird breaks between them. It's just weird.

Is anyone else having this problem?
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Hey! Checking it out, and it isn't just for you.
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Well... that is not supposed to look that way...
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Okay. Good news and bad news.

The good news is 1) the problem only seems to be in that thread at the moment (for unknown reasons) and has not yet been seen elsewhere and 2) it's relatively easy to fix.
The problem is caused by the Black forum style which is currently the default but was made for an older version of PHPBB. If you go to the control panel and change your board style to either the Prosilver or Digi styles, the thread will display correctly again. Mostly correctly anyway, Prosilver seemed to change width part of the way.

The bad news is we might need to find a new default style for the forum. Personally, I think the other two installed styles are quite ugly. There are some options that we can try out but I will need to spend some time looking at them. Ideally, we would have a forum-specific style but we need someone that knows how to edit phpbb styles. No one volunteered the last time we changed styles.

Since the problem is limited to one thread right now, I don't think we need to make any rushed changes. All can be dealt with in the fullness of time and at the appropriate juncture when all things have been considered.
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If it's plain CSS I don't mind having a look.
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Leeward wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 1:16 pm If it's plain CSS I don't mind having a look.
According to their documentation on editing styles "A good understanding of HTML, CSS (and JS) is required." I do not have those but if you do we would be most appreciative of the help.

The article on editing styles is here and continues from some topics introduced here. The style we are currently using is here if you would like to look at that.

If you are able to do it, we will have to have a wider discussion on what we want and need. I think the current style's structure is good (better than the other ones) but there is definitely a lot of room for improvement.
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I am reasonably familiar with the HTML/CSS/JS environment but I've never tinkered with phpBB so I'll need to familiarise myself with it first. I'm also quite busy with work as always. Honestly if I were you I would rather outsource this to a pro who'll do it within an hour, it's far less trouble than dealing with someone who will do it for free. Another alternative would be to look for a better theme that works out-of-the-box.
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That was what I said before you offered to help... We will be looking at the different options available and seeing what is the best direction to take.
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Here is the dark themes category, looks like a lot of them support the latest version. Why not test some?
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I know. I am literally looking through them right now. But, like I said, ideally we would have a forum-specific style. I'm just not sure why you said you would be willing to look and as soon as I said okay, started telling me to go back to my original plan.
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Clearly you're way ahead of me and we misunderstood each other. Forget I said anything.
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Okay, maybe this isn't just an old style thing. I installed a new style which is updated for the latest version of phpbb but the thread was still broken in that style. In fact the style that works the best on that thread, Digi, was also built for an earlier version of phpbb. So I'm not entirely sure what it is about that thread that is causing the problem.
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Rakuen Growlithe wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:10 pm Okay, maybe this isn't just an old style thing. I installed a new style which is updated for the latest version of phpbb but the thread was still broken in that style. In fact the style that works the best on that thread, Digi, was also built for an earlier version of phpbb. So I'm not entirely sure what it is about that thread that is causing the problem.
Has anyone checked the music video thread? Maybe it's the amount of embedded videos throwing it off
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Music video thread looks good. And if it displays in some themes then it shouldn't be a problem that its too much for the database or something like that. In any case, it's all broken into smaller pages so it never loads too much stuff. Another strange part is that there is enough of the first post available that I can edit it and it previews perfectly. There's no sign that anything is wrong with that first post but somehow it becomes a blob of posts.
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The thread has been fixed. Basically, something went wrong with the spoiler sections, so all spoiler warnings there have been removed and now it looks normal once again.
A huge thank you to GreenReaper for taking a look and helping me narrow down the problem. And by narrow down I basically mean tell me what was wrong.
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Wooo! Thanks Rakuen and GreenReaper! :)
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I didn't know Greenreaper was a member here?
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He didn't have to log in to see the thread but yes. He's been a member since 2008 and has posted occasionally.
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Adagio wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:05 am I didn't know Greenreaper was a member here?
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GreenReaper wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:24 pm
Adagio wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2019 8:05 am I didn't know Greenreaper was a member here?
I'm everywhere, man. I'm like the wind. A green, cheesy wind.
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I was actually wondering if you joined for a reason? It could possibly be an interesting story! XD
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Now I'm curious, do you know GreenReaper?
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And yet he doesn't reply to polite Twitter DMs. :?
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Leeward don't be offended, I once stood behind him at a furmeet for five minutes before he noticed my amazing presence... which reminds me, I need to see you again GreenReaper!
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