Sexual preference profile field
- Rakuen Growlithe
- Fire Puppy
- Posts: 6727
- Joined: Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:24 pm
- Gender: Male
- Sexual preference: Bi
- Species: Growlithe (pokemon)
- Region: Other
- Location: Pretoria
- Contact:
Re: Sexual preference profile field
...That explains like 90% of relationships. -.- Here's an interesting fact. 100% of straight people are not attracted to 100% of the people of the opposite sex. There are far more aspects that affect preference. Some people will say no because of colour or size or age or income. They are just more layers.
"If all mankind minus one, were of one opinion, and only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind."
~John Stuart Mill~
“Give me the liberty to know, to utter, and to argue freely according to conscience, above all liberties.”
~John Milton~
~John Stuart Mill~
“Give me the liberty to know, to utter, and to argue freely according to conscience, above all liberties.”
~John Milton~
- Sev
- Superbike Snow Leopard
- Posts: 6596
- Joined: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:27 pm
- Gender: Male
- Sexual preference: Gay
- Species: Snow Leopard
- Region: Western Cape
- Location: A Twisty Road
Re: Sexual preference profile field
Yeah, but someone who is demisexual should have no sexual attraction to someone they do not have an emotional attachment to. The popularity of pornography proves that an emotional attachment is not required for sexual attraction in the majority of the population.
- Rakuen Growlithe
- Fire Puppy
- Posts: 6727
- Joined: Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:24 pm
- Gender: Male
- Sexual preference: Bi
- Species: Growlithe (pokemon)
- Region: Other
- Location: Pretoria
- Contact:
Re: Sexual preference profile field
You can also be attracted to the situation of the porn. Although maybe that's more limited to fetish porn...
"If all mankind minus one, were of one opinion, and only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind."
~John Stuart Mill~
“Give me the liberty to know, to utter, and to argue freely according to conscience, above all liberties.”
~John Milton~
~John Stuart Mill~
“Give me the liberty to know, to utter, and to argue freely according to conscience, above all liberties.”
~John Milton~
- Adagio
- Warm Hearted
- Posts: 3609
- Joined: Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:06 am
- Gender: Male
- Sexual preference: Other
- Species: Snow Leopard
- Region: Gauteng
- Location: Pretoria
Re: Sexual preference profile field
No... It's a little more complicated than that...Rakuen Growlithe wrote:...That explains like 90% of relationships. -.- Here's an interesting fact. 100% of straight people are not attracted to 100% of the people of the opposite sex. There are far more aspects that affect preference. Some people will say no because of colour or size or age or income. They are just more layers.
Although I'm rather new to it, so I can't exactly claim to be an expert...
- Sev
- Superbike Snow Leopard
- Posts: 6596
- Joined: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:27 pm
- Gender: Male
- Sexual preference: Gay
- Species: Snow Leopard
- Region: Western Cape
- Location: A Twisty Road
Re: Sexual preference profile field
In the strictest sense, a demisexual person will not feel attraction to someone that they don't know or care about under any circumstances.
I'm not sure how this works in practice, but that's the requirement.
I'm not sure how this works in practice, but that's the requirement.
- Adagio
- Warm Hearted
- Posts: 3609
- Joined: Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:06 am
- Gender: Male
- Sexual preference: Other
- Species: Snow Leopard
- Region: Gauteng
- Location: Pretoria
Re: Sexual preference profile field
Yep! That sums it up pretty nicelySev wrote:In the strictest sense, a demisexual person will not feel attraction to someone that they don't know or care about under any circumstances.
I'm not sure how this works in practice, but that's the requirement.
- Rakuen Growlithe
- Fire Puppy
- Posts: 6727
- Joined: Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:24 pm
- Gender: Male
- Sexual preference: Bi
- Species: Growlithe (pokemon)
- Region: Other
- Location: Pretoria
- Contact:
Re: Sexual preference profile field
Can still pretty much be simplified to bisexual.
"If all mankind minus one, were of one opinion, and only one person were of the contrary opinion, mankind would be no more justified in silencing that one person, than he, if he had the power, would be justified in silencing mankind."
~John Stuart Mill~
“Give me the liberty to know, to utter, and to argue freely according to conscience, above all liberties.”
~John Milton~
~John Stuart Mill~
“Give me the liberty to know, to utter, and to argue freely according to conscience, above all liberties.”
~John Milton~
- Sev
- Superbike Snow Leopard
- Posts: 6596
- Joined: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:27 pm
- Gender: Male
- Sexual preference: Gay
- Species: Snow Leopard
- Region: Western Cape
- Location: A Twisty Road
Re: Sexual preference profile field
This is all silly, really.
Sexuality is like a rhombus:
On the Y-axis, you have a person's predilection for attraction, with a fox being at the top, and someone who is completely asexual at the bottom.
On the X-axis, you have gender based attraction. Completely to the left and you're 100% heterosexual, and completely to the right and you're 100% homosexual.
People exist somewhere inside of this polygon; they just decide to give the point that they exist on it some arbitrary label.
Sexuality is like a rhombus:
On the Y-axis, you have a person's predilection for attraction, with a fox being at the top, and someone who is completely asexual at the bottom.
On the X-axis, you have gender based attraction. Completely to the left and you're 100% heterosexual, and completely to the right and you're 100% homosexual.
People exist somewhere inside of this polygon; they just decide to give the point that they exist on it some arbitrary label.
-
- Light-footed
- Posts: 2294
- Joined: Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:35 am
- Gender: Male
- Sexual preference: Straight
- Species: Vulpes chama
- Region: Western Cape
Re: Sexual preference profile field
Can we agreed that because this isn't a dating site (still sad about that fact), people don't want to jump in each others pants and textbook accurate label are overkill. The labels are there so you don't make comments that might offend (which you shouldn't anyway).
Re: Sexual preference profile field
How about - remote the pun and just leave the field a blank text-entry, so that you can put in whatever your special-snowflake-heart desires.
- Sev
- Superbike Snow Leopard
- Posts: 6596
- Joined: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:27 pm
- Gender: Male
- Sexual preference: Gay
- Species: Snow Leopard
- Region: Western Cape
- Location: A Twisty Road
Re: Sexual preference profile field
Fluke's attraction would be towards anime girls.
- Ryall
- Spotted Scallywag
- Posts: 2760
- Joined: Sun Jul 05, 2009 6:25 pm
- Gender: Male
- Species: Hyena
- Region: Gauteng
Re: Sexual preference profile field
What the hell were all of you doing posting at 1AM this morning for?
Also, Leeward, we could just do it like Facebook, and show an 'interested in' option (interested in males, females, males and females). I know you already suggested that after expressing frustration when nobody supported gyno-- pussy lovers.
Also, Leeward, we could just do it like Facebook, and show an 'interested in' option (interested in males, females, males and females). I know you already suggested that after expressing frustration when nobody supported gyno-- pussy lovers.
No, you're asexual: you don't give any fucks. That's the point.RavenSong wrote:... and having an accurate sexual preference tag is something that's bugged me forever. Because while I'm sure no one gives a fuck that I am asexual - I give a fuck. it's a part of me.
Hahaha!
- Faanvolla
- Plaas Brak
- Posts: 1963
- Joined: Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:55 am
- Gender: Male
- Sexual preference: Gay
- Species: Dog (Vampire)
- Region: Western Cape
- Location: Stellenbosch
- Contact:
Re: Sexual preference profile field
I fall into one of the three 'main' sexual orientation groups and therefore I don't care about people who feel like they don't fit into the main arbitrary boxes.I don't have a problem with being represented so why should we change the options? /sarcasm
The previous problem with adding things to a list / changing the order (the region one), was the change in order will mess the existing choices up
So gay; bi-gay; bi; bi-straight; straight; lesbian; prefer not to say; are existing and removing and moving them will mess the system up,
Just adding options, will that mess the system up too?
If not, then Demi- pan- , Asexual, questioning/ undecided can be added without it being a problem no?
The only "problem" from adding more sexualities is the "problem" that more people might feel represented.
The previous problem with adding things to a list / changing the order (the region one), was the change in order will mess the existing choices up
So gay; bi-gay; bi; bi-straight; straight; lesbian; prefer not to say; are existing and removing and moving them will mess the system up,
Just adding options, will that mess the system up too?
If not, then Demi- pan- , Asexual, questioning/ undecided can be added without it being a problem no?
The only "problem" from adding more sexualities is the "problem" that more people might feel represented.
Seize the day, not your bearings.
Steam, Rockstar SocialClub, Uplay, Battlenet: Faanvolla#2539, Telegram: @Faanvolla
Switch Code: SW-0054-4917-1029
DeviantArt,Furaffinity,SoFurry, Weasyl, FurryNetwork
ProfilePic by hanimetion
Steam, Rockstar SocialClub, Uplay, Battlenet: Faanvolla#2539, Telegram: @Faanvolla
Switch Code: SW-0054-4917-1029
DeviantArt,Furaffinity,SoFurry, Weasyl, FurryNetwork
ProfilePic by hanimetion
- Raven Song
- Stealer of Time
- Posts: 7039
- Joined: Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:56 pm
- Gender: Does it matter?
- Sexual preference: Other
- Species: Shapeshifting Anubian
- Region: Other
- Location: Londonium ONce more...
- Contact:
Re: Sexual preference profile field
Ryalll - you made me snort my milk.
Rakuen - OMG WE FOUND SOMETHIG RAKUEN'S NEVER HEARD OF! SOMEONE CALL THE NEWSPAPERS!
Just because you've never heard of it doesn't make it any less real. The only reason I cant use that same argument with the big words Leeward used is because the alternatives we suggested lots of people have heard and use on a daily basis.
Would putting in a blankity blank system work? I could finally express my furnisexual desires...
I genuinely feel that simply adding the three new ones would help. No change needed to the previous list. But as I'm not a mod or anything, the decision lies with you guys.
Rakuen - OMG WE FOUND SOMETHIG RAKUEN'S NEVER HEARD OF! SOMEONE CALL THE NEWSPAPERS!
Just because you've never heard of it doesn't make it any less real. The only reason I cant use that same argument with the big words Leeward used is because the alternatives we suggested lots of people have heard and use on a daily basis.
Would putting in a blankity blank system work? I could finally express my furnisexual desires...
I genuinely feel that simply adding the three new ones would help. No change needed to the previous list. But as I'm not a mod or anything, the decision lies with you guys.
Learn the rules like a pro, so you can break them like an artist. Pablo Picasso
-
- Light-footed
- Posts: 2294
- Joined: Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:35 am
- Gender: Male
- Sexual preference: Straight
- Species: Vulpes chama
- Region: Western Cape
Re: Sexual preference profile field
Could we maybe add Petrosexual? There are people who love vehicles.
Re: Sexual preference profile field
You guys are making me regret this suggestion, big time...
- Raven Song
- Stealer of Time
- Posts: 7039
- Joined: Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:56 pm
- Gender: Does it matter?
- Sexual preference: Other
- Species: Shapeshifting Anubian
- Region: Other
- Location: Londonium ONce more...
- Contact:
Re: Sexual preference profile field
Okay in all seriousness - I agree with your intentions Leeward. I do agree that the list needs to be more comprehensive but, it also needs to be simple for us unintelligent zombie food hoards.
Therefore:
Heterosexual
Homosexual
Bisexual
Asexual
Demisexual
Pansexual
Undecided
Does it Matter?
I agree that we could call them homo and hetero because with the new gender options, people can draw there own conclusions on what I like...
Therefore:
Heterosexual
Homosexual
Bisexual
Asexual
Demisexual
Pansexual
Undecided
Does it Matter?
I agree that we could call them homo and hetero because with the new gender options, people can draw there own conclusions on what I like...
Learn the rules like a pro, so you can break them like an artist. Pablo Picasso
- Faanvolla
- Plaas Brak
- Posts: 1963
- Joined: Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:55 am
- Gender: Male
- Sexual preference: Gay
- Species: Dog (Vampire)
- Region: Western Cape
- Location: Stellenbosch
- Contact:
Re: Sexual preference profile field
Again, as said here about changing the order of the dropdown list:
http://forum.zafur.co.za/viewtopic.php? ... 120#p80466
Bi mostly gay
Bi
Bi mostly straight
Straight
Lesbian
Prefer not to say
Is the current one, that means removing the extra Bi options and Lesbian option, would break all the current set orientations.
So either it messes up the whole thing, it doesn't change at all, or they get updated but nothing is removed, is what it seems like the options are.
Homosexual -Gay
Bisexual - mostly Homosexual
Bisexual
Bisexual - mostly Heterosexual
Heterosexual
Homosexual - Lesbian
Prefer not to say
Asexual
Demisexual
Pansexual
Undecided
Does it Matter?
http://forum.zafur.co.za/viewtopic.php? ... 120#p80466
GayValerion wrote:The hassle with this is (and we found out by accident) is that the DB stores a number, corresponding to the position in the list. I pointed out to the previous admins that Free State was missing, and when it was added, all furs with the "Other" category got listed as "Free State".
We can change that, but it would mean everyone has to update their profiles, or we'd have incorrect data. Or we need to do a fairly massive DB cleanup.
Bi mostly gay
Bi
Bi mostly straight
Straight
Lesbian
Prefer not to say
Is the current one, that means removing the extra Bi options and Lesbian option, would break all the current set orientations.
So either it messes up the whole thing, it doesn't change at all, or they get updated but nothing is removed, is what it seems like the options are.
Homosexual -Gay
Bisexual - mostly Homosexual
Bisexual
Bisexual - mostly Heterosexual
Heterosexual
Homosexual - Lesbian
Prefer not to say
Asexual
Demisexual
Pansexual
Undecided
Does it Matter?
Seize the day, not your bearings.
Steam, Rockstar SocialClub, Uplay, Battlenet: Faanvolla#2539, Telegram: @Faanvolla
Switch Code: SW-0054-4917-1029
DeviantArt,Furaffinity,SoFurry, Weasyl, FurryNetwork
ProfilePic by hanimetion
Steam, Rockstar SocialClub, Uplay, Battlenet: Faanvolla#2539, Telegram: @Faanvolla
Switch Code: SW-0054-4917-1029
DeviantArt,Furaffinity,SoFurry, Weasyl, FurryNetwork
ProfilePic by hanimetion
Re: Sexual preference profile field
It's not that complicated a DB change: gay and lesbian get merged into homosexual, a few options get added, and the rest is either just renamed or unchanged.
- Raven Song
- Stealer of Time
- Posts: 7039
- Joined: Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:56 pm
- Gender: Does it matter?
- Sexual preference: Other
- Species: Shapeshifting Anubian
- Region: Other
- Location: Londonium ONce more...
- Contact:
Re: Sexual preference profile field
but what if sexy sex is my job...
Learn the rules like a pro, so you can break them like an artist. Pablo Picasso
- Galahad
- Posts: 1973
- Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2016 6:31 pm
- Gender: Male
- Region: Gauteng
- Location: Pretoria
Re: Sexual preference profile field
I shall no longer debate about the feasibility of the suggestion, as I have already conceded.
I am curious, however, Leeward.
You expressed this opinion in THIS thread:
I am curious, however, Leeward.
You expressed this opinion in THIS thread:
If sexuality is relatively insignificant in the grand scheme, why are you requesting to have its labels changed on the forum? This is not an ad hominem or an attempt to reignite our previous discussion. It is a genuine question.Leeward wrote:I think this is universally being made way too big a deal out of. Why should anyone care what someone else identifies as? If someone tells me they're transgender, my internal reaction is "Okay cool, whatever. Doesn't change a thing, you're still the same person to me. Let's carry on." Unless they ask me to switch pronouns or whatever, then I'll happily oblige, because what's the harm? Same goes for when someone tells me they're anything but straight, I'm like "That's cool, good for you. I don't care any more or less than if you were straight." I mean really, it doesn't affect you in any way, so why make such a huge fuss over it? And I mean this in both directions: hostility and approval. Neither is necessary. Just get on with your life.
Re: Sexual preference profile field
Actually, to be completely honest here, I'm kind of jealous about all major genders being included, but not all major orientations. Even if it is a two-axis scale, there aren't that many regions that can be delineated, and most of them are already there. I mean if we're being inclusive here why include some but not others? That's what doesn't make sense to me. People are all like "Yay, new genders!" but when I suggest new orientations they're like "Nah, too complicated." Dafuq?
Also that pun has been an eye-sore to me since the day I joined.
EDIT: Another thing... yeah, this isn't a dating site, but people have met future partners here before (Ryall and VoxLupus, Sev and Taka, Tocs and Rocket, to name a few). But besides that, why are some people complaining about it not being necessary to make the sexual orientation field more specific when they clearly have their own preference listed? That seems very hypocritical to me.
Also that pun has been an eye-sore to me since the day I joined.
EDIT: Another thing... yeah, this isn't a dating site, but people have met future partners here before (Ryall and VoxLupus, Sev and Taka, Tocs and Rocket, to name a few). But besides that, why are some people complaining about it not being necessary to make the sexual orientation field more specific when they clearly have their own preference listed? That seems very hypocritical to me.
- Galahad
- Posts: 1973
- Joined: Tue Mar 29, 2016 6:31 pm
- Gender: Male
- Region: Gauteng
- Location: Pretoria
Re: Sexual preference profile field
Thank you for explaining your viewpoint.
- Valerion
- Alpha Wolf
- Posts: 2803
- Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2008 8:50 pm
- Gender: Male
- Sexual preference: Gay
- Species: Werewolf
- Region: Gauteng
- Location: ::1
- Contact:
Re: Sexual preference profile field
Remember that without going and editing the database manually (which I am NOT in a mood for), lists can't have items removed, or added (except at the end). Otherwise we affect people's existing profiles.
This is one reason why I am hesitant to modify lists frequently, but I am willing to add a few more options.
This is one reason why I am hesitant to modify lists frequently, but I am willing to add a few more options.
- Sev
- Superbike Snow Leopard
- Posts: 6596
- Joined: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:27 pm
- Gender: Male
- Sexual preference: Gay
- Species: Snow Leopard
- Region: Western Cape
- Location: A Twisty Road
Re: Sexual preference profile field
I assume that it's since sort of relational DB?
You would need a command to change all of the foreign ID's for orientation that are currently Lesbian to Gay.
You would then change the string values of each entry in orientation to its new equivalent (gay => homosexual).
Finally, you would add the new entries to orientation.
I work with Entity Framework and T-SQL as part of my job as a full stack developer, and this is a pretty simple operation, since all of the current entries can be mapped to one of the new entries.
You would need a command to change all of the foreign ID's for orientation that are currently Lesbian to Gay.
You would then change the string values of each entry in orientation to its new equivalent (gay => homosexual).
Finally, you would add the new entries to orientation.
I work with Entity Framework and T-SQL as part of my job as a full stack developer, and this is a pretty simple operation, since all of the current entries can be mapped to one of the new entries.
Re: Sexual preference profile field
"Frequently"? Okay I know I've made reorganisation-related suggestions before, but I wouldn't exactly call them frequent. Besides it's not that complicated, in SQL it'd be something like this:
Code: Select all
UPDATE members SET pref="Homosexual" WHERE pref="Gay" OR pref="Lesbian";
- Raven Song
- Stealer of Time
- Posts: 7039
- Joined: Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:56 pm
- Gender: Does it matter?
- Sexual preference: Other
- Species: Shapeshifting Anubian
- Region: Other
- Location: Londonium ONce more...
- Contact:
Re: Sexual preference profile field
Or just add the three new requested options and leave life simple...
Learn the rules like a pro, so you can break them like an artist. Pablo Picasso
- Sev
- Superbike Snow Leopard
- Posts: 6596
- Joined: Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:27 pm
- Gender: Male
- Sexual preference: Gay
- Species: Snow Leopard
- Region: Western Cape
- Location: A Twisty Road
Re: Sexual preference profile field
That's a bad way of doing it, because you should only change the names after everything has been moved.Leeward wrote:"Frequently"? Okay I know I've made reorganisation-related suggestions before, but I wouldn't exactly call them frequent. Besides it's not that complicated, in SQL it'd be something like this:
Code: Select all
UPDATE members SET pref="Homosexual" WHERE pref="Gay" OR pref="Lesbian";
Remember, in the Member table, those will be foreign keys (ID's, in other words), not strings.
So it would be more like this:
Code: Select all
UPDATE members SET Orientation=1 WHERE Orientation=2;